1909 T204 T.T.T. Cigarettes

Portrait of Timayenis
in Quincy (MA) Herald

The famous T204 set is commonly referred to as “Ramlys”, but there is a second back that can also be found on the cards, although not for all of the players. “T.T.T. Natural” was a vanity cigarette brand named for the Mentor Company’s president, the belligerent T.T. Timayenis, who had earlier created the Ramly cigarette brand knowing that consumers would confuse it with an existing “Ramleh” brand. He was sued for this by the S.Anargyros tobacco company, but that party eventually gave up the suit. There’s also some evidence that the Carl Horner photos used for this set were photographs of his work, i.e., Timaynenis may not paid Horner for them. It would fit with his character.

As of 2025, there are 49 players known who can be found with a T.T.T. back, which leaves 72 T204 subjects whose cards can be found with a Ramly back, only. I suspect that these numbers will not change, but given how scarce they are it’s not impossible. I’ve provided a full checklist of T.T.T.’s at the bottom on this page. If you know of any players whose status should change, please contact me. It would be much appreciated.

T.T.T. Checklist

PlayerKnown T.T.T. Back
Whitey AlpermanNo
John AndersonYes
Jimmy ArcherNo
Frank ArellanesNo
Jim BallYes
Neal BallNo
Frank C. BancroftYes
Johnny BatesNo
Fred BeebeYes
George BellNo
Chief Bender (HOF)No
Walter BlairNo
Cliff BlankenshipYes
Frank BowermanNo
Wm. BransfieldYes
Roger Bresnahan (HOF)No
Al BridwellNo
Mordecai Brown (HOF)Yes
Fred BurchellYes
Jesse C. Burkett (HOF)Yes
Bobby ByrneNo
Bill CarriganNo
Frank Chance (HOF)Yes
Charlie ChechYes
Ed CicotteNo
Otis ClymerNo
Andy CoakleyYes
Ed Collins (HOF)No
Jimmy Collins (HOF)Yes
Wid ConroyNo
Jack CoombsNo
Doc CrandallNo
Lou CrigerYes
Harry DavisNo
Art DevlinNo
Wm. H. DinneenYes
Pat DonahueYes
Mike DonlinYes
Wild Bill DonovanYes
Gus DornerYes
Joe DunnNo
Kid ElberfeldNo
Johnny Evers (HOF)No
Bob EwingNo
Cecil FergusonNo
Hobe FerrisYes
Jerry FreemanNo
Art FrommeYes
Bob GanleyNo
Doc GesslerNo
Peaches GrahamNo
Clark Griffith (HOF)Yes
Roy HartzellYes
Charlie HemphillYes
Dick HoblitzelYes
Geo. HowardNo
Harry HowellYes
Miller Huggins (HOF)Yes
John HummelNo
Walter Johnson (HOF)Yes
Thomas JonesYes
Mike KahoeNo
Ed KargarYes
Wee Willie Keeler (HOF)No
Red KleinowNo
Jack KnightNo
Ed KonetcheyNo
Vive LindamanNo
Hans LobertNo
Harry LordYes
Harry LumleyNo
Johnny LushYes
Rube ManningNo
Jimmy McAleerYes
Amby McConnellYes
Moose McCormickNo
Harry McIntyreYes
Larry McLeanYes
Fred MerkleNo
Clyde MilanNo
Mike MitchellNo
P. J. MoranYes
Cy MorganYes
T. H. MurnaneYes
Danny MurphyNo
Red MurrayNo
Doc NewtonNo
Simon NichollsNo
Harry NilesNo
Bill O'HaraNo
Charley O'LearyYes
Dode PaskertNo
Barney PeltyYes
Jake PfeisterNo
Ed Plank (HOF)No
Jack PowellYes
Bugs RaymondNo
Tom ReillyNo
Claude RitcheyNo
Nap RuckerNo
Ed ReulbachNo
Slim SalleeNo
Germany SchaeferYes
Jimmy SheckardNo
Admiral SchleiYes
Wildfire SchulteYes
Jimmy SebringYes
Bill ShipkeNo
Charlie SmithNo
Tubby SpencerNo
Jake StahlYes
Jim StephensNo
Harry SteinfeldtNo
Gabby StreetNo
Bill SweeneyNo
Fred TenneyYes
Ira ThomasNo
Joe Tinker (HOF)No
Bob UnglaubNo
Heinie WagnerYes
Bobby Wallace (HOF)Yes